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    I have to side with Godzilla, even though it was a very slow movie. It was well made and I didn't mind the American design overhaul for the Big G.

    Kong felt like they looked at Godzilla, and went, "Hey, what did people complain about in Godzilla? Uninteresting human characters and lack of monster fights?"

    "Let's give them more of both!"



    Don't get me wrong - I like a lot of the actors, but the characters were so one note / useless. Zero subtlety. Basically it feels like Warner Brothers and their various teams behind these movies are very focused on making us eat our vegetables before we get our dessert.

    I just hope they don't botch delivering dessert. Don't get me wrong, these are both decent flicks; but I'd be hard pressed to call them required viewing. Kong was practically Tumblr the movie with how absolutely wretched characterization was.

    I skipped Shin Godzilla because I have zero faith in Hideaki Anno as a director. He's been at the helm of too many stinkers for my liking.
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    For Godzilla I still can't forgive that movie for needlessly cutting away from the action again and again. Shin Godzilla didn't have too much Godzilla on screen either but whenever he was actively on the move or destroying stuff, they showed him.

    Wait, Kong had characters? ;p Larry Fong as cinematographer pretty much made that movie for me. It was just a pleasure to look at. And I got my giant monsters throughout. Also invested because it has Eugene Cordero (one of the soldiers) who's an improv comic I enjoy...but weirdly they didn't give him any comedy to do. Reminded me of Lauren Lapkus in Lost World (she was one of the control room people). Super funny person who's given a bland role (I think? Kind of blocked that movie from my memory.)

    I just knew Anno from Evangelion so I was hoping for something similar to that. (Haven't seen the rebuild movies so dunno if those are worst than the series. That and I saw the series almost 20 years ago now so has that nostalgia factor.) I mean, it's sort of clever. Shows how the government would handle or rather mishandle a Godzilla attack, but it became more a movie about politics and career climbing that happened to have a giant monster in it. Also had one of my least favorite tropes. The too-cool-for-school American-born Japanese character who speaks horrible English constantly and interjects English words whenever they do speak Japanese.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D.C. View Post
    For Godzilla I still can't forgive that movie for needlessly cutting away from the action again and again. Shin Godzilla didn't have too much Godzilla on screen either but whenever he was actively on the move or destroying stuff, they showed him.
    I absolutely agree.

    I still like it in retrospect, even after committing the cardinal sin of denying us the monster porn money shot after the Japanese scientist (shame on me for blanking on his name - he's fighting cancer last I heard) gives the film permission with "Let them fight."

    There's still a lot of beautiful scenes in it.

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    Caught Baby Driver tonight, it's pretty much what you'd expect from Edgar Wright if Hot Fuzz weren't a comedy. Really fun. Love the driving. Love the villains. Felt like an 80's Shane Black action flick at times. Great villains. Gee, if only there were some cinematic template these lame ass comic book movies could pull from to make great villains. . .
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    Atomic Blonde was interesting. I didn't know it was also based off a comic.

    So I can say this year I saw a kick butt action movie with a female protagonist who fights with a lasso that's based off a comic, and earlier in the year I saw some Zack Snyder fanfic called Wonder Woman.

    One of the John Wick crew worked on Atomic Blonde, so if you enjoyed John Wick - you'll enjoy this one.

    However the long take stairwell fight scene is becoming as played out as slow motion action, and walking away from explosions. I'm going to need to see a director elevate the game. No more stairwells / hallways please.
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    Luc Besson's Valerian was horrible. It's not getting trashed because of mind bending concepts. It's simply horrible story telling. Valerian and Laureline are poorly acted and have no chemistry whatsoever. It's agonizing sitting through their interactions which draws attention to the ridiculous aspects of the plot.

    The visuals are great--it would've been a great music video or fodder for an art book. But the spectacle is not enough to make you care about the characters.
    Saw it tonight. I have to agree with this.

    They're also terribly written because they have no personality or interesting dialogue. The movie kind of assumes we already accept and like the protagonists, as if we're already familiar with them. But there's nothing to invest in because the characters are done so badly.

    I actually think most of it is fine. The comic predates Star Wars and Guardians of the galaxy. So it's kind of nice that at least visually it could measure up with those films. I also felt that the overall story was fine for the type of movie that it is, and I liked some of the action setpieces. But it's lacking the key elements that made those other movies enjoyable to watch; fun characters and snappy banter.

    As it is I don't give a hoot about their whole relationship or anything else they're doing. Maybe if that part was done well, I wouldn't have minded the goose chase of a plot.
    Since it isn't, the whole thing falls apart and becomes silly. Instead of being drawn into the world, I'm wondering why I'm watching Rihanna do a dance in fetish gear with Ethan Hawke at the piano.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jharker View Post
    Saw it tonight. I have to agree with this.

    They're also terribly written because they have no personality or interesting dialogue. The movie kind of assumes we already accept and like the protagonists, as if we're already familiar with them. But there's nothing to invest in because the characters are done so badly.
    I can agree with this, but still enjoyed it - just for the sake of comparison, more so than the last two Star Wars movies. Mainly because I'd love for Star Wars to stop being about the first three damned movies.

    I get it, the formula works, and the prequels were a f**king disaster - but that doesn't mean you need to play it safe. Sorry, I'm just irritated at the tent pole for the genre being warmed over left overs of 30 year old movies.

    Caught The Curious World of Hieronymous Bosch today.



    An enjoyable look at a damned visionary artist. It feeds into my confirmation bias though - Bosch married into a wealthy family. High society contacts and connections allowed him to practice his craft. Not that there's anything at all wrong with that, but my pet theory of "be born wealthy, or marry wealthy to be a successful artist" just rears it's misshapen head again. . .

    There's an interesting connection between theories about Bosch's imagination and, if I recall Ditko on Dr. Strange, where the observers theorize they must have been on mind altering substances - but the reality seems to be they just have a frickin' live wire of an imagination running wild.

    I still need to catch Hieronymus Bosch: Touched By The Devil, which isn't connected to an exhibition as this one was.
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    Saw that Guy Ritchie "King Arthur" movie. It's very Ritchie. I had a good time mostly, it's fun enough if you care nothing about any of the traditional Arthurian elements and just let it be a slick fantasy movie. Charlie Hunnam makes a likeably roguish hero. Jude Law is clearly having fun chewing up the scenery as the villain. The sets are frequently gorgeous and the action is cool in the anachronistic "Guy Ritchie don't give a shit" way that he brought to Sherlock Holmes. I knew what I was getting into when I hit Play.

    But I was continually annoyed that the design of Excalibur, a sword upon which the movie's plot and action frequently focus, is just so goddamn boring. The blade has a neat enough water pattern and some glowy runes, but the hilt is dull and unremarkable and the shape of the blade itself could not be any more plain.

    It's EXCALIBUR, you dippy bastards. I'm not saying it should be exceptionally elaborate, it definitely shouldn't be ugly, but it should look cool. This sword did not look cool. This sword looked like generic sword 23A from the props bin, slapped with some VFX and a bit of extra paint. Totally lame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inkthinker View Post
    Saw that Guy Ritchie "King Arthur" movie. It's very Ritchie. I had a good time mostly, it's fun enough if you care nothing about any of the traditional Arthurian elements and just let it be a slick fantasy movie. Charlie Hunnam makes a likeably roguish hero. Jude Law is clearly having fun chewing up the scenery as the villain. The sets are frequently gorgeous and the action is cool in the anachronistic "Guy Ritchie don't give a shit" way that he brought to Sherlock Holmes. I knew what I was getting into when I hit Play.

    But I was continually annoyed that the design of Excalibur, a sword upon which the movie's plot and action frequently focus, is just so goddamn boring. The blade has a neat enough water pattern and some glowy runes, but the hilt is dull and unremarkable and the shape of the blade itself could not be any more plain.

    It's EXCALIBUR, you dippy bastards. I'm not saying it should be exceptionally elaborate, it definitely shouldn't be ugly, but it should look cool. This sword did not look cool. This sword looked like generic sword 23A from the props bin, slapped with some VFX and a bit of extra paint. Totally lame.
    To be fair, the standard bearer for cinematic Arthurian lore is John Boorman's Excalibur; and Excalbur didn't exactly set the tone for the Sword of Omens down the road. In fact. . . it was a rather plain sword in an exceptional movie.



    Perhaps if Ritchie's flick were a bit better paced / fleshed out, it wouldn't have stuck out as much. I did appreciate the single / double handed gimmick to unlock the magic, and the depiction of an Arthurian Musou attack was pretty bad ass.
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    I really enjoyed Atomic Blonde. It pushed all the right buttons for me.

    Yes, it's all cool (80s) style over subtance with the subtlety of a jackhammmer. Where Baby Driver had a delicately curated soundtrack that they choreographed the action to, this film basically puts on a "best of the 80s" tracklist and has "I ran" during a car chase.

    There's also a scene where Charlize runs into a movie theater playing Tarkovsky's Stalker (as she's being followed by Sovjet thugs) just to get to the "fight in front of a movie screen" trope. I also enjoyed when her handler actually utters the words "trust no one" during her briefing, only for her to immediately forget about that by stepping into a car with some obvious bad guys, just for the sake of an action scene.

    It's that kind of film. But you know what, I actually appreciated the bluntness of those choices because it was so entertaining.

    It also has a convoluted plot to the point where I had to check an article if character motivations even made sense. l feel like I'd normally pick it apart, but I had a good time. It's just the right amount of dumb flashy spy action that I was in the mood for.

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